Comments on: Warts and Not Quite All: A Brief Biography of Jacques Fath http://scentzilla.com/2006/12/05/warts-and-not-quite-all-a-brief-biography-of-jacques-fath/ A monster perfume habit. On a rampage... with a wanton waft of sillage in its wake. Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:10:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.3 by: sali http://scentzilla.com/2006/12/05/warts-and-not-quite-all-a-brief-biography-of-jacques-fath/#comment-2576 Wed, 13 Dec 2006 05:41:41 +0000 http://scentzilla.com/2006/12/05/warts-and-not-quite-all-a-brief-biography-of-jacques-fath/#comment-2576 Hehe--well, I just had to stick it to Chanel once, right? Besides, I'm still in denial that they took Serge from Shiseido (like I really care. I just want good 'fumes, and preferably cruelty-free, thank you very much). The whole conservative-nationalist trend--this is scary, how images can be manipulated to change the shape of society. It's done with words and images alike; it's a bit of work to stay aware of images and beliefs our minds are bombarded with everyday. Hehe–well, I just had to stick it to Chanel once, right? Besides, I’m still in denial that they took Serge from Shiseido (like I really care. I just want good ‘fumes, and preferably cruelty-free, thank you very much). The whole conservative-nationalist trend–this is scary, how images can be manipulated to change the shape of society. It’s done with words and images alike; it’s a bit of work to stay aware of images and beliefs our minds are bombarded with everyday.

]]> by: Scentzilla! http://scentzilla.com/2006/12/05/warts-and-not-quite-all-a-brief-biography-of-jacques-fath/#comment-2569 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 18:32:03 +0000 http://scentzilla.com/2006/12/05/warts-and-not-quite-all-a-brief-biography-of-jacques-fath/#comment-2569 Oh thanks, <b>Angela</b>! That's another book to add to my reading wishlist this year. Cool. Iris Gris is hard to find, but not impossible. Alas, my wee bottle spilled during the course of my move, which just breaks my heart. The original Fath de Fath is quite different, but I do like both the rerelease and the vintage... just in different ways is all :) <b>Sali</b>, heh, yeah, I don't think Coco Chanel will ever become obscure! But someday we can all blissfully forget about old PH. One can hope, anyhow. Oh thanks, Angela! That’s another book to add to my reading wishlist this year. Cool. Iris Gris is hard to find, but not impossible. Alas, my wee bottle spilled during the course of my move, which just breaks my heart. The original Fath de Fath is quite different, but I do like both the rerelease and the vintage… just in different ways is all :)

Sali, heh, yeah, I don’t think Coco Chanel will ever become obscure! But someday we can all blissfully forget about old PH. One can hope, anyhow.

]]> by: sali http://scentzilla.com/2006/12/05/warts-and-not-quite-all-a-brief-biography-of-jacques-fath/#comment-2563 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 07:59:38 +0000 http://scentzilla.com/2006/12/05/warts-and-not-quite-all-a-brief-biography-of-jacques-fath/#comment-2563 OK, maybe not as obscure...Chanel was kind of a revolutionary brand...;-p OK, maybe not as obscure…Chanel was kind of a revolutionary brand…;-p

]]> by: sali http://scentzilla.com/2006/12/05/warts-and-not-quite-all-a-brief-biography-of-jacques-fath/#comment-2562 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 07:49:00 +0000 http://scentzilla.com/2006/12/05/warts-and-not-quite-all-a-brief-biography-of-jacques-fath/#comment-2562 Warts and all, we have a lot to learn through the past and there's beauty to discover there as well. It's always been hard for me to deal with my feelings about the house of Chanel because of Coco Chanel's supposed links to Nazism through her association with her then-boyfriend. Whose life do we save in time of war? Whose do we close our eyes to? These are impossible questions to answer rationally. I hope I'm never in the position where I have to make such choices but I do hope I never close my eyes to genocide and torture happening around me, that I'll be part of the solution, not the problem which is perpetuated by fear and silence. Unfortunately, the same reason we boycott can also fuel people to rally for them, as we've seen with the rise of Paris Hilton through her racist remarks caught on tape a year or so ago (the incident was downplayed by the media in the height of the successful "reality" TV show). Honestly, I think both Chanel and Paris have sort of seen their heyday and they'll become as obscure as Jacques Fath. I don't think even No.5 can keep Chanel afloat forever. We'll see what happens when Serge takes over. Great article--thanks! Warts and all, we have a lot to learn through the past and there’s beauty to discover there as well. It’s always been hard for me to deal with my feelings about the house of Chanel because of Coco Chanel’s supposed links to Nazism through her association with her then-boyfriend. Whose life do we save in time of war? Whose do we close our eyes to? These are impossible questions to answer rationally. I hope I’m never in the position where I have to make such choices but I do hope I never close my eyes to genocide and torture happening around me, that I’ll be part of the solution, not the problem which is perpetuated by fear and silence.

Unfortunately, the same reason we boycott can also fuel people to rally for them, as we’ve seen with the rise of Paris Hilton through her racist remarks caught on tape a year or so ago (the incident was downplayed by the media in the height of the successful “reality” TV show). Honestly, I think both Chanel and Paris have sort of seen their heyday and they’ll become as obscure as Jacques Fath. I don’t think even No.5 can keep Chanel afloat forever. We’ll see what happens when Serge takes over. Great article–thanks!

]]> by: AngelaS http://scentzilla.com/2006/12/05/warts-and-not-quite-all-a-brief-biography-of-jacques-fath/#comment-2550 Mon, 11 Dec 2006 17:15:00 +0000 http://scentzilla.com/2006/12/05/warts-and-not-quite-all-a-brief-biography-of-jacques-fath/#comment-2550 Thank you for this article! I love reading things like this. I just finished "Elegance" by Genevieve Antoine Dariaux, who used to design knitwear for Fath--so, he had a least some respect for women designers. She wrote that Fath was "handsome, gay, and charming, bubbling with original ideas, cultured, and a perfect gentleman. Like a magician, he could take a few yards of hop sacking and transform it into a stunning evening gown." Apparently he had a nice chateau, too. I wish I could smell some of his original perfumes--especially Iris Gris and his take on Fath de Fath. I think I was born too late.... Thank you for this article! I love reading things like this. I just finished “Elegance” by Genevieve Antoine Dariaux, who used to design knitwear for Fath–so, he had a least some respect for women designers. She wrote that Fath was “handsome, gay, and charming, bubbling with original ideas, cultured, and a perfect gentleman. Like a magician, he could take a few yards of hop sacking and transform it into a stunning evening gown.” Apparently he had a nice chateau, too. I wish I could smell some of his original perfumes–especially Iris Gris and his take on Fath de Fath. I think I was born too late….

]]> by: Scentzilla! http://scentzilla.com/2006/12/05/warts-and-not-quite-all-a-brief-biography-of-jacques-fath/#comment-2516 Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:32:38 +0000 http://scentzilla.com/2006/12/05/warts-and-not-quite-all-a-brief-biography-of-jacques-fath/#comment-2516 <b>kuri</b>, I did find a little bit about her available online... do you read Italian? It's in an article about Jacques, but it appears to have a wee bit about her, too... (Not sure, as I've no Italian skills, unfortunately!) <a href="http://www.culturagay.it/cg/biografia.php?id=198" rel="nofollow">Fath at CulturaGay.it</a> <b>chaya</b> Oh good :) I was going to write this to add to wikipedia, but realized that there's no way I could write it dispassionately for the standards there. And I find it hard to believe you're an old fart... too much vivacity to be "old." kuri, I did find a little bit about her available online… do you read Italian? It’s in an article about Jacques, but it appears to have a wee bit about her, too… (Not sure, as I’ve no Italian skills, unfortunately!) Fath at CulturaGay.it

chaya Oh good :) I was going to write this to add to wikipedia, but realized that there’s no way I could write it dispassionately for the standards there. And I find it hard to believe you’re an old fart… too much vivacity to be “old.”

]]> by: chayaruchama http://scentzilla.com/2006/12/05/warts-and-not-quite-all-a-brief-biography-of-jacques-fath/#comment-2509 Fri, 08 Dec 2006 12:51:08 +0000 http://scentzilla.com/2006/12/05/warts-and-not-quite-all-a-brief-biography-of-jacques-fath/#comment-2509 Love it, love it all, dammit. What a wealth of knowledge. You don't bore me, babe. But then, I'm an old fart , with only a voice and great cleavage who smells gooood.... I'm allowed to continue on this earth only because I feel good, I smell good, I make 'em laugh, and I feed 'em well... Thanks for a great post! Love it, love it all, dammit.

What a wealth of knowledge.
You don’t bore me, babe.
But then, I’m an old fart , with only a voice and great cleavage who smells gooood….
I’m allowed to continue on this earth only because I feel good, I smell good, I make ‘em laugh, and I feed ‘em well…

Thanks for a great post!

]]> by: kuri http://scentzilla.com/2006/12/05/warts-and-not-quite-all-a-brief-biography-of-jacques-fath/#comment-2487 Thu, 07 Dec 2006 11:53:11 +0000 http://scentzilla.com/2006/12/05/warts-and-not-quite-all-a-brief-biography-of-jacques-fath/#comment-2487 Fascinating as usual. What an interesting list of assistants! Interesting to contrast the fortunes of the different fashion houses after the war. Am in particular intrigued by Chanel :P I would love to know more about Genevieve Fath. Fascinating as usual. What an interesting list of assistants! Interesting to contrast the fortunes of the different fashion houses after the war. Am in particular intrigued by Chanel :P I would love to know more about Genevieve Fath.

]]> by: Scentzilla! http://scentzilla.com/2006/12/05/warts-and-not-quite-all-a-brief-biography-of-jacques-fath/#comment-2474 Wed, 06 Dec 2006 19:01:15 +0000 http://scentzilla.com/2006/12/05/warts-and-not-quite-all-a-brief-biography-of-jacques-fath/#comment-2474 Thank you, ALotofScents, I appreciate it :) Glad you enjoy Fath's work also! Thank you, ALotofScents, I appreciate it :) Glad you enjoy Fath’s work also!

]]> by: ALotofScents http://scentzilla.com/2006/12/05/warts-and-not-quite-all-a-brief-biography-of-jacques-fath/#comment-2473 Wed, 06 Dec 2006 18:40:15 +0000 http://scentzilla.com/2006/12/05/warts-and-not-quite-all-a-brief-biography-of-jacques-fath/#comment-2473 A wonderful piece and a very welcome dose of traditional elegance. Thank you! Best, ALotofScents A wonderful piece and a very welcome dose of traditional elegance. Thank you!

Best,

ALotofScents

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